DoubleLine CEO Jeffrey Gundlach joins CNBC’s Scott Wapner for a wide-ranging discussion on the macroeconomic landscape, with a particular focus on credit markets, monetary policy and cross-asset positioning. Mr. Gundlach highlights a divergence between equity volatility and fixed income stress, emphasizing widening credit spreads across high yield, investment grade and emerging markets despite relatively muted signals from the Volatility Index. He underscores the relative resilience of securitized products such as asset-backed securities and commercial mortgage-backed securities, framing the current environment as a broader “reevaluation phase” with constrained return opportunities and elevated dispersion across asset classes.
The conversation also delves into the Federal Reserve’s policy outlook and the structural risks in the private credit market. Mr. Gundlach challenges the prevailing market narrative around imminent rate cuts, pointing to persistent inflation pressures, a two-year U.S. Treasury yield above the federal funds rate and little disinflation progress. In regard to private credit, he raises concerns about liquidity mismatches and valuation opacity, drawing parallels to prior credit-cycle inflection points and noting rising default risk in lower-quality segments. Against this backdrop, Mr. Gundlach outlines a cautious investment stance, favoring selective exposure to commodities and gold alongside defensive fixed-income positioning while warning of stress that could continue to weigh on risk assets.
Mr. Gundlach is CEO of DoubleLine. In 2011, he appeared on the cover of Barron's as "The New Bond King." In 2013, Institutional Investor named him "Money Manager of the Year." In 2012, 2015 and 2016, he was named one of "The Fifty Most Influential" in Bloomberg Markets. In 2017, he was inducted into the FIASI Fixed Income Hall of Fame. Mr. Gundlach is a summa cum laude graduate of Dartmouth College, with degrees in Mathematics and Philosophy.